If you assign a dollar amount for the use of PUA methods you will find that you pay much more than you get in return. It's like investing $1000 to get $50 in return. Now I will admit that for some that $50 is very important, like if you're a virgin and/or sexually/socially inexperienced. Then that $50 return is worth all the effort. But over the long term the use of PUA methods is definitely a losing proposition. Once the novelty fades it quickly becomes a low yield exercise in terms of results attained, and it has the compound effect of hurting your self image since you are trying to change who you are to adapt to what women are attracted to. I personally would rather pay for sex than ever use PUA methods again. It's a much more efficient use of my time. The closest thing I would ever get to using PUA methods again is to do mass approaches, but with my personality on display, not PUA material. And I would do this in order to get a regular girlfriend. In this part of the world where I am it's simply not worth it to be a player who hooks up with lots of women; the reason being that cold approaching here is very low yield. Therefore, it only makes sense to do it to get a steady girlfriend.
But if you want sex with different hot women on a regular basis then prostitution is the best way to go about it. It will save you all the grief, anger and emotional frustration that comes with using game - which by the way is a much higher price to pay than paying a prostitute, in my opinion. And it's even possible that a prostitute will cost less money anyway. For example, if you habitually go to clubs and the cost per club night is (say) $40-50, then you might end up paying hundreds of dollars before you finally hook up with someone (not to mention the many hours of approach effort that it took). For this amount of money you could get sex with a guaranteed hot woman, but with none of the effort.
So with all this in mind, these are the reasons I've come up with in favor of prostitution:
• You are only spending money, as opposed to money plus time plus effort, or time plus effort at the very least.
• It crushes the evolutionary argument that very attractive women always seek men with superior genes (mostly espoused by PUAs). So if you got money you can buy sex with a very attractive woman regardless of how much "reproductive value" you have as a man. This is a great thing and perhaps more fascinating than the use of "game" to get a higher quality woman since game is just an attempt to enhance attractiveness. But money is simply a shortcut to get the same result without any of the effort to boost attractiveness.
• Prostitutes compete with each other for your business/company, which helps raise the quality level of their service. This is unlike typical western females in the dating game which feel no need to compete for a man, so like a tight trade union they collectively lower the quality of what they give to the man while expecting much in return. But for prostitutes, giving little means the man just "shops" elsewhere next time. This is a switch from the dating/courtship/pro-female/male-supplication model to an economic model for which payment for quality of service is the only criterion for the pairing between a man and woman.
• In the economic model where the man pays directly for sex, the seller (the woman) typically respects the buyer (the man) much more than women in the dating scene do. The western dating scene is also based on a buyer-seller model, but one which is cleverly disguised with fake courtship rituals and relationship quid pro quo, with the added insult that the sellers (the women) typically disrespect the buyers (the men). It's like walking into a store, and instead of being greeted by the merchant you are ignored, and even scorned just for being there. You are starting from a negative position which you must climb out of somehow. In other words, you have to prove yourself worthy before even ATTEMPTING to buy.
• Paying money instead of using game means you don't have to change who you are. If you want to get laid, you just pay money, and your personality stays basically intact. So given a choice between the two, a truly alpha guy is more likely to just pay for sex than change parts of his personality in order to get women to have sex with him. Now some guys will say that going to prostitutes sucks because the woman doesn't actually like them, and is just doing it for money. To me, as long as I just want sex, it wouldn't matter to me anymore than if my mechanic likes me as a person. As long as he can properly service my car, that's all I really want. I'm not paying him to like me. I'm paying him to service my car, the same way I would pay a woman to satisfy me sexually. However, I would want her to respect me. That is important, the same way it's important that my mechanic respects my wishes with respect to my car.
Tuesday, October 18, 2011
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Perfectly true, but you will never convince a gamer of this - they have this massive mental block concerning this issue.
One of the essential, defining characteristics of the game movement is cognitive dissonance. It could not survive without this, its a built in, deliberate feature of game.
Basically, in my view, game is so that weak men can continue acting weak while telling themselves they are being strong. This way you get to supplicate to women while firmly convinced you are doing nothing of the sort.
You can point this out to gamers, but the whole point of game is to preserve this cognitive dissonance so that weak men can indulge their desire to supplicate without admitting this to their conscious minds.
Tell a gamer he defines his self-esteem based on womens reactions to him, he will hotly deny it, insisting it is *just a tool* to get women, and then he will turn around and mock anyone who uses prostitutes and consider that putting in enormous amounts of effort and making entire personality changes he despises in order to get girls is a much less degrading way to get sex than just paying for it.
Obviously game is not just a *tool* to get sex for gamers - if it was, its easier to just pay, and they would freely admit that, yet nearly EVERY gamer is against paying for it. Game is clearly, for most gamers, a device to win approval and validation from women.
But as I have said, you have no chance of getting a gamer to admit this. The amount of word twisting they will go through to avoid admitting these things is astounding, it has to be seen to be believed.
There is something to be said about playing a game and winning. There is a sense of accomplishment that comes with tackling a puzzle, figuring it out, and solving it. A challenge. I bet I can talk this girl into giving me head sorta thing.
Is it as efficient as paying? No. I cannot think of a more uncompromising method for the average man to get sex with hot women than to pay.
However, alpha males are competitive and willful. Game is fun way to try to control and dominate an unpredictable part of our environment that is woman.
It is alpha to do whatever the hell you want. If you like playing the game, do so. If not, pay.
Anon, playing a game and winning brings satisfaction? That really depends on what you are trying to win.
With game, what you are trying to *win* is a response from someone else - this means you have to subordinate your own desires and wishes in order to fit in with someone ELSEs script.
So what you are *accomplishing* is lowering yourself to the level of a slave. Its like the dog who gets satisfaction from *winning* food from his master - but how did he win it? He became a slave for his master.
If the only way you can accomplish something involving the consent of another human being is by becoming their *slave* (by suppressing your own personality to fit in with theirs), it suddenly does not seem like such an accomplishment, does it?
Thats why even if game succeeded it would not be an *accomplishment*. It would merely mean you consented to be a females slave in order to win a positive response from her.
True *winning* means getting things on your OWN terms, not THEIR terms.
I love how the gamer above tried to come up with this routine about "enjoying winning".
When gamers are confronted with the objective reality of how illogical their choices are - they come up with the most desperate, last-ditch attempts to try and hang onto their game religion.
There's a saying that's appropriate here "He chased her, until she caught him".
The trick is that SHE the woman decides she wants you long before you've played any game.
How is that you're "winning" a game, if you were chosen long before you even played it?
95% of the time when a gamer gets a chick, if you interview her, she had chosen the guy long before he did anything game-wise.
On the general topic of prostitution and being alpha, can any gamer explain to me why rockstars, billionaires, politicans, wrestlers and all kinds of alphas continue getting caught in prostitution rings?
Can anyone explain to me why the most powerful and even most attractive men on the planet who could get women easily, still go to escorts?
In fact, if game was about emulating alphas, then gamers would be teaching going to professionals as part of the repertoir. Most alphas I have ever known do whores on a regular basis.
Heck, even rockstars who have groupies, still choose to do prostitutes... Maybe it's because they figured out that you pay a whore to leave (which a groupie might not).
Maybe it's because being an alpha is ultimately about figuring out that you respect yourself, your time and your resources too much to leave it up to chance.
An alpha wants complete dominion over his time and resources. He wants complete control, without any randomness or vagueness.
When it comes to sex, you ALWAYS pay one way or another. With whores, you're: 1) paying the cost UP FRONT; and 2) paying the bitch to leave when you're finished.
I'm glad you continue to write man. Is there a way to subscribe so it emails when you make a new post? Other than the atom thing?
I don't have anything set up right now for email notification. I think I can probably do it through FeedBurner.
"The closest thing I would ever get to using PUA methods again is to do mass approaches, but with my personality on display, not PUA material."
Having done both the whole 'fuzzy hat PUA club thang' and mass street approaches with 'my personality on display (ie, no Game),' I gotta say in terms of saving money, time, mental stress while improving both the quality and quantity of women in my life, mass approaches wins hands down. It's not even a contest.
"the reason being that cold approaching here is very low yield."
I don't know if I would agree it's 'low yield,' but in any case it's certainly 'higher' than running Game and pretending to be an Alfa-Touf-Guy while trying to persuade Train Wrecks to hop into bed against their better judgment.
I'm very glad I found this blog. Reading your posts really opened my eyes and helped me leave behind the whole PUA 'community'.
PUA takes insecure guys and just makes them into bigger liars/braggers to keep up with their friends. Most of PUA is really about getting numbers to impress their friends. Why do so many PUA guys have no girl friends. They are either inept or have a bottomless pit of need to have recognition from other PUA guys and women are really second!
WT
Prostitutes really are BY FAR the best way to have sex with 9s and 10s.
Use "game" to have sex with 8s and below, and use money to have sex with 9s and 10s, and you'll be a happy man.
Another bullshit-ass article on this anti-PUA blog.
Your motivation for disagreeing becomes obvious upon following your link.
I thought this was a great article and oh so true. I have read I think this entire blog. Kudos for writing all of it.
Please continue writing on your blog. you have inspired me the most out of anyone
Completely agree with this. IMO, chasing one-night stands are just not worth it. Maybe the first one or two are for the experience value, but other than that, it is just shit.
If one manages to get a girlfriend or at least a regular FWB out of it, then at least the initial effort put into this would get amortized by the number of times you have sex with her.
Otherwise, go for hookers. Take the negative aspects about chasing one-night stands like the time and emotional effort put into it, maybe lot of effort put into it for very little return (bad sex), add in the positive aspects of hookers like unlimited variety, she will probably put in some effort to please you (else you just drop her), and none of the effort and drama, and hookers definitely become the better option for people who make good money.
Shia Muslims, as in Iran, have this concept of Mut'ah or temporary marriage. It envolves offering a dowry for a specified term to a woman. I have a facebook page about it called "islamic dating guide". I think you'd find it interesting.
There is an element of Alpha Male that a lot of people in the PUA community don't explain, which I'd like to share.
There are two types of people in the world; givers of happiness and takers. To be successful with women one has to love people. That love in the alpha sense translates to wanting to protect, shelter etc. One who cares.
The alpha among animals is not alpha because he is strong. He is strong because he cares about everyone in the pact. Nature or God gives him that attractiveness because he looks after his pact.
Women intuitively sense whether a male is a happiness-giver or a happiness taker.
With your pathetic, inferior attitude about women, it's no surprise you have little choice but to pay for access to one. You deserve every last bit of your loneliness and paralyzing frustration with yourself and your life.
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